Have your say on climate change.

All this week we are providing an opportunity for visitors to express their thoughts on the carbon emissions strategies being put forward. You can have their say here on the blog, or at the museum you can post your comments on our “have your say board” or cast a vote for one of the options.

For the options check here
or to see vote results and comments here
or the ice block results here
Does carbon trading really stop emissions – here

1000 random Sydney people vote on emissions schemes at the Powerhouse Museum

Over the last week over 1000 Sydney people have cast their votes in the Museum’s ongoing climate change pre-election. And they categorically want serious action from the government on emissions targets.

Sydney votes on emissions targets
When offered 4 choices from continuing as we are through 5, and 15% reductions to >25% reductions 57% want the highest targets and more than 71% want the high to very high targets.

Only 29% want no to little action. People are showing that they believe this is an important issue.

Here are the comments people have been leaving behind:

Comments Sat 27 Nov

This long ago stopped being about good science.

That we have been polluting our home to death for many years. That it is a fact it is a no brainer for anyone that has gone out and looked at our world and experienced the beauty of our environment…. And at the same time experienced the dirty filth/pollution all around us. Take a look guys! For the last 30 years I’ve taken trips overseas; often on planes when you look out over the supposed to be pristine environment and all you see is dark clouds of filth sitting (and extending for large amounts of space – miles and miles to the horizon actually…. Sitting there. How long do you think our “??” can survive us!! Duh… Tuly R.

If we are really serious about climate change and threats are real, then governments should prohibit all private travel – all travel should be by public transport. If we are serious then no one should exchange/renew/update their TVs/mobiles/computers etc. Only really, absolutely necessary air travel – all meetings/conferences by video conferencing – have if these overseas junkets!!
Get serious!!

Untill the shore based oil refineries sink into the sea destroying the oil industries political hold on the world – move to higher ground

I could cange the world and to do nothing

Climate change – the biggest scam since the Millenium Bug.
You are all suckers!
- I so Agree with you!!

GLOBAL WARMING ALARMISM IS BAD POLITICS SUPPORTED BY BAD SCIENCE.
RELEASE THE DATA WITHOUT MANIPULATING IT!!
IPCC SHOULD BE ASHAMED!

1. SOLAR PANELS ON EVERY ROOF AND A WATER TANK IN EVERY BASEMENT… SIMPLE!!

• Should the temperature at the surface of the Sun drop 1 degree C, the Earth will be plunged into an Ice age. Do you know what the Sun’s surface temperature is?

2. ME
I think it’s a lot of fuss about nothing the world has continued and will continue; the records of mankind are miniscule in time and we cannot know but I think it is all natural events and should be left as is.

ETS etc is just another tax scheme to raise money for govts to wate on hair-brained schemes

1. If we are going to a place which is in a short distance from where we are, then try to walk not to drive
2. Try not to turn on the heater or cooler while we can stand the cold and heat.
3. Be green always, reduce our temptation to things. Recycle all things that are recyclable.
4. Not to use to much of disposable dishes, cups and plates. Say NO to plastic bags

Comments Sun 29 Nov

We’re being dreadfully
HOODWINKED!
It’s the millennium bug all over
MAKES ME
ASHAMED to think we can all be fed so much rubbish.
People have been needlessly
FRIGHTENED.

No major change in history has occurred without social upheaval For once – can’t we agree and recognise the need for change and plan and act to minimise the negative impacts. Stop thinking of yourselves alone – think of all!
Mark

Reduce population all over the world so 3rd world emissions/capita can grow to western levels.
Adrian

Put plastic over it.
Save the footure.

There’s no point in “saving the planet” unless people know what they should do with it.
If climate change is real, why not use our air conditioners to cool the planet?

Comments Mon 30 Nov

I will wash my clothes less
Wash my body less.
Flush the toilet less
Eat less.
Sleep more.
Talk more.
Laugh more.

PS someone else can use bottom of this paper
- Ping

Eat more cow
Cow = 4 stomaches = Maximum Methane = Die :I

Stop the bruning of rain forests etc – AMAZON!
BORNEO/INDONESIA
ETC
We all breath out CO2 –
Trees convert CO2

Just fix it And don’t argue
- Love Perth CVC!
[signed with ten names]

You should stop using paper for an exhibit on climate change!

Comments Tue 1 Dec

All we can do to help the environment. We should be good tennets to the Earth as it is the only place we can inhabit. There is no where else. We have not looked after the Earth that well causing things to go extinct and pollution that is bad for our health.

At least Rudd is trying to listen and act. The liberals are a train wreck. Vote for Tim Flannery!!

Have your say – leave us a comment or visit the museum until Dec 7th

Sydney continues to vote for serious emissions reductions!

Our climate emissions targets vote continues – here are results to Thursday November 26th.
(286 total votes)

The daily track:
carbon emissions votes 22-26 nov small

The running total:
carbon emissions total votes 22-26 nov small

What do you think? see the options here

Thursdays comments:

We should do something Quick!

If the Governments of the world dont put effective means in place to get back to 350ppm CO2 at Copenhagen – then popularist/peoples governments should take over. Remember govts only rule by the consent of the people!!!!

We should do whatever will be the best for our environment!!

Climate change is not good

Sydney votes on climate change options 3

Our ongoing program offering you the chance to have your say on carbon emissions targets, continues to enagage visitors in voting and commenting on the options outlined by Dr Chris Reidy From the Institute for Sustainable Futures at UTS. Over 240 people have voted.

Here are the results for the last 4 days:
emissions options vote results nov 22-25small

People continue to vote overwhelmingly for significant emissions reduction targets.

And the total to date:
emissions vote results nov 22-25small

And more comments:

This is very dumb and boring but… exciting

Option 4: Planet Earth is a cool place to live, lets treat her with some respect.

I would vote for option 4: reduce emissions by more than 25%

You can see earlier results and comments here and here
We look forward to your comments below – or come to the museum and take part in the discussion.

Sydney votes on climate change choices 2

climate votes chart nov 22-24 cropped

Our ongoing “have your say on climate change” program continues to provide insight into the desire for Sydney people to see dramatic action from the policy makers heading to Copenhagen.

Comments: from the last two days

Agriculture should be exempt from emissions reductions (we all have to EAT)
But it will not do any harm if we all made reductions to our emissions by a minimum 15%

Kevin Rudd should stop acting like a know it all!!
He’s doing so much bad Eegilish that he carnt do proper things for climate change. We need George Bush and Johnny Howard back so he can restart our economy, AND THEN help our fragile environment.
In the meantime PRAY!!
We all need some loving in the world!

Sceptics should conduct their own experiments.

A good starting point will require a car (with keys), masking tape and a 3m slice of garden hose.

climate change comment

Dinosaurs emitted more than we ever have. In the past we had the Great flood which was more than the rising sea level now. We had the Ice Age which was dramatic climate change. Now perhaps it’s the opposite the Warming Age. Plant more trees. Instead of mowing down Amazon Rainforests how about replacing it. Other than that don’t worry about it. The most dramatic climate changes happened before the industrial revolution. Let us conserve, recycle etc but other that that you can’t control nature.

PS Bombing the moon was a bad idea.

Sydney votes on climate change

sunday vote chart
As part of our expert -Have your say on climate change program on Sunday people coming into the museum were encouraged to discuss and vote on what they think Australia’s efforst to mitigate climate emissions should be. Provided with the four common options, do nothing extra, reduce emissions 5-15%, reduce emissions 16-25% or reduce emissions by greater than 25%.

Sydney has voted: with the overwhelming response suggesting people want significant and hard line action from the government, 77% of votes being for a greater than 25% reduction.

Some of the comments people wrote on our wall;

Global warming and climate change is becoming an increasingly important issue Australia and the world must face. I believe the govt. is the only, rather the most influential group able to assist.

The politicians need to get off their backsides and commit to a > 25% reduction in emissions. Unfortunately, we as a group do not feel that we are empowered to change them as by nature, politicians are short term thinkers.

However, the bipartisan approach may be effective if there is enough will in us to vote them out, if they are passive.

Something quick.
Solar panels on all roofs
Walk more
More water tanks
Community gardens

A large target is called for not only by society, but science. Without a strong target for the planet to strive for an fair equitable policies to match, we cannot hope to be under 350 ppm of carbon ever again, the melting of polar ice will be inevitable and sea levels will rise further than our most drastic predictions, The Australian Government has to can its 5% b@#$%t and go for 40% under the Greens ETS model for a safe climate future.

Australia needs to be seen as doing something but it is important for other nations to become involved as well at which point Australia should improve its quota.

We should just get on with it — or maybe have a referendum?

What do you think?

How much does a 180kg block of ice melt on a 42degree day?

Post by Karl Raferty – PHM Acting Operations Manager
Here is a series of time lapse photo’s of the demise of the ice block brought in for the ‘Ask me, I’m an expert’ program yesterday.

Started out at 1000×600x280mm @ 11:30am
ice 11.30am

At 1pm
ice 1pm

At 2pm
ice 2pm

At 3pm
ice 3pm

At 4pm
ice 4pm

And finally 5pm
ice 5pm

At 5pm the block had reduced in size to roughly 800×500x160mm, losing about 62% of its volume in a 5.75hour period. In 42 degree heat not many guessed it would last this long, some guessing it would only last around an hour.

The ice was left overnight in Museum courtyard outside and at 07:30 this morning was completely gone.

Questions to address from the public are why can’t the water run off be caught and used and doesn’t it take a lot of energy (and hence add to the global warming issue) to make a block of ice of this size?

Karl Rafferty
Acting Operations Manager
Powerhouse Museum

Interesting note: when people weren’t around the ice block, clever pigeons were standing under the trolley soaking up the cooling effects of the ice.

What would you do about climate change?

IPCC predictions of the impact of temperature changes on humanity

IPCC predictions of the impact of temperature changes on humanity


What would you do about climate change?
As part of the Powerhouse Museum Expert program you can have your say on the climate change options in the foyer of the Powerhouse on Sunday 22nd November. To get you started, here are some details and the four most commonly discussed options for setting emissions targets:

Climate change is a hotly debated issue in Australia and around the world. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) publishes regular reports that review the scientific evidence for climate change.
According to the IPCC:
• The Earth has warmed by more than 0.7°C over the last century
• It is more than 90% certain that this warming is due to human emissions of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane
• These emissions come from burning fossil fuels for energy and transport, from clearing forests, from agriculture and from industrial processes
• If we keep emitting greenhouse gases, the Earth will continue to warm and Australia is likely to experience more heatwaves, bushfires and intense storms, rising sea levels, water supply problems and loss of iconic species and ecosystems like the Great Barrier Reef

From 7-18 December 2009, representatives from almost every country will meet in Copenhagen, Denmark to decide what to do about climate change at an international level. One of the main issues they will discuss is what targets the world should set to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2020.

What would you do?

Option 1: Do nothing
The IPCC says that if we do nothing to change our ways, temperatures could increase by more than 6°C this century, hundreds of millions of people will run out of water, more than 40% of species will become extinct and coastal flooding due to sea level rise will affect millions of people. The Garnaut Climate Change Review in Australia found that the impacts on human civilisation and ecosystems would be catastrophic and that the cost would exceed 8% of Australia’s gross domestic product (GDP) by the end of the century. In rough terms, this is equivalent to every Australian losing $85 per week. Climate change would continue to accelerate beyond our ability to control it.
But some people disagree and don’t believe that climate change is really happening, or that it is really caused by humans. They argue that we don’t need to do anything about climate change and can continue business as usual. Is this what you believe?

Option 2: Reduce emissions by up to 15%
The Australian Government has committed to reduce emissions by 5% by 2020. It would increase this target to 15% if countries like the United States and European countries take on similar targets and other major economies (like China) agree to limit their emissions. Households would need to pay an extra $7 per week on energy bills to help achieve this target, but low and middle-income households will receive direct cash assistance from the government to cope with higher bills.
If other countries take similar action, the Earth would probably be on track for a temperature increase of 3 to 4°C by the end of the century. This level of warming would create major economic and environmental damage, with up to 30% of species becoming extinct, the likely loss of the Great Barrier Reef and destruction of about 30% of coastal wetlands. At these temperatures, there is a risk of triggering feedback mechanisms that would lead to unstoppable climate change.

Australia (unconditional), the United States is currently considering legislation for a target in this range but it has not yet passed the Senate, South Korea, New Zealand

Option 3: Reduce emissions by 16-25%
In May, the Australian Government announced that it would increase Australia’s 2020 emission reduction target to 25% if the world agrees to an ambitious global deal to stabilise greenhouse gases in the atmosphere at 450 parts per million or less. Households would need to pay an extra $11 per week on energy bills to help achieve this target, but low and middle-income households would receive direct cash assistance from the government to cope with higher bills.
A global deal along these lines could limit temperature rise to 2 to 2.5°C by the end of the century. There would still be significant economic and environmental impacts from this amount of warming but some of the catastrophic impacts would probably be avoided and the risk of unstoppable climate change would be reduced. However, many climate change experts think that a global deal like this one is unlikely unless rich countries like Australia commit to even stronger targets.

Australia (with conditions), European Union (unconditional)

Option 4: Reduce emissions by more than 25%
If Australia committed to reduce its emissions by more than 25% by 2020 it would be one of the strongest targets of any country, alongside the commitments made by the European Union, Japan and Brazil. If rich countries like Australia commit to reduce emissions by more than 25% then an ambitious global deal to limit temperature rise to less than 2°C becomes feasible. Many scientists believe that a 2°C temperature rise is the safe limit that should not be exceeded, allowing us to avoid most of the worst impacts of climate change.
To achieve a reduction in emissions of more than 25%, households would need to pay more than an extra $11 per week on energy bills, but low and middle-income households would most likely still receive direct cash assistance from the government to cope with higher bills.

European Union (with conditions), Norway, Japan, United Kingdom, Brazil, Indonesia

We look forward to your comments.

Sources
Commonwealth Treasury 2008, Australia’s low pollution future: The economics of climate change mitigation.
Garnaut, R 2008, The Garnaut Climate Change Review, Cambridge University Press.
Intergovernmental Panel on climate Change 2008, Fourth Assessment Report, Cambridge University Press.

Prepared by: Dr Chris Riedy, Research Director, Institute for Sustainable Futures, University of Technology, Sydney

Links:
CSIRO breifing at the Australian science Media Centre Nov 19 2009
And the same as reported by the ABC
Australian Government “Climate Change Science” information book
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)

Exploding stars and the accelerating cosmos: Einstein’s blunder undone

Interested in Cosmos, dark matter or dark energy, this talk may be for you.
Recent observations of exploding stars discovered halfway across the Universe reveal an astonishing fact: the expansion of the Universe is speeding up! Apparently, the Universe is dominated by a mysterious dark energy that drives cosmic acceleration. The dark energy may be a modern form of the ‘cosmological constant’ created by Einstein in 1917, but abandoned by him in the 1930s. Robert P. Kirshner, a distinguished astronomer and teacher at Harvard University, explains this astonishing new picture of the universe in a lively, richly illustrated presentation, drawing on his own first-hand account of the discovery.

Professor Robert P. Kirshner, Harvard University
Sunday 22 November 2009
2pm – 3pm, Target Theatre, level 2

talks afternoon image 1
Tycho’s supernova. Distance 7500 light years.
Credit: NASA/CXC/Rutgers/J.Warren & J.Hughes et al.

Talks After Noon is a series of lectures, held twice a week, with Museum curators, experts and special guests
Talks are free with Museum admission ($10 adults/$6 concession/Powerhouse Members free)
Powerhouse Museum 500 Harris Street, Ultimo
Tel (02) 9217 0509 Email adultlearning@phm.gov.au
Full program online powerhousemuseum.com/whatson

Dark Science

Dark Science at the Powerhouse MuseumUltimo science Festival may be over but the stories keep coming. We got a lot of coverage for our dark science nights in August. Here are just a few links to stories about the science of fear and pain;
1. Natasha Mitchell – the host of Dark Science presents All in The Mind on Radio National and has her take on the nights here.
2. 10daysofscience the NSW National Science Week committee’s great news blog about NSWk told a few stories about dark science here, here , here, here, here and here.

Take a look and tell us what you think.



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